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Saturday 25 January 2014

Credulous Fools or Willful Delusion?


I thought to attempt a bit of humor and irony here - but on reflection this actually is beyond parody - and goes to the core of why we have lost any trust in the Environment Agency. 
  
Some EA officials, as you will know if you've been here before - have a history of  being a tad inventive and economical with the facts. We're now into fantasy and shameless concoction territory.

There are purportedly two hydro schemes competing for the water at Avoncliff - each is obliged to provide considerable evidence in support of their application. Indeed, the EA have gone much further than their statutory remit in soliciting information from North Mill - some of this information being commercially sensitive -  EA officials have shared some of that to third parties without authorisation.

That said - there is an overarching issue that simply remains unresolved. North Mill have provided engineering details of their proposed turbine and can point to an installed base of operating units available for inspection and evaluation.   

The latest proposal for a "home made" Kaplan turbine at Weavers Mill(1) however is not supported by any of this and the EA have accepted the proposal  without receipt of independently verified test data or quite unbelievably without having even seen an operating unit - of which there are 3 supposedly "in operation" - since the constructor of said turbines apparently refused to tell them where these units are! (Great marketing strategy!)

This stretches the bounds of credulity to snapping point. A turbine of the size claimed must be subjected to the EA's own licence process QED

So,  Environment Agency officials have accepted assertions about a significant and critical piece of heavy engineering to be installed in a public space - utterly unsupported by any verifiable evidence about its safety, efficiency or reliability  - and the question just sits there....


Credulous Fools or Willfully Deluded?

 There is of course another explanation - but I'll leave you to think about that...



FYI - the turbines we're talking about have to handle up to 6 tons of water every second  24 hours a day for years....


(1) We're not sure if it's sunk in with people familiar with Avoncliff so I'll repeat... The Weaver's Mill turbine proposal has also actually been moved from near the bank to a large concrete structure almost at the middle of the river... - "not a significant change to the scheme" which  requires any public consultation  according to EA officials.... so they do irony too - who knew?

15 comments:

  1. I guess this turbine has quite amazing/unprecedented performance and is a national secret?

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    1. Unprecedented BULLSHIT!!!!!!!

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  2. Have the EA decided yet ? Or are you jumping the gun? Sorry I don't believe the EA would believe in fantasy turbines not on such a high profile case, how do you know they have accepted the proposal? has a license been issued yet? what is the name of the constructor? A worried tax payer

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    1. No there's been no "without delay" decision yet ...

      But yes - EA officials have accepted a turbine into the determination process without actually physically checking that it works and performs to the builder's claims - or even that there's one that's got wet ever....

      This has to be plain wrong on several levels - difficult to know which level to start on really... - identifying a problem is a start - we've known this for some time but there's been no disclosure of details for the "fantasy turbine" - and the EA have been studiously ignoring this fact.

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  3. Can any one tell the EA where these ATL manufactured turbines are, somebody must have them well hidden these are big turbines.Or its a big dream, Or they are in pixie land, BRADFORD-ON-AVON is still waiting at Kingston mills......away with the fairies

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    1. A government agency away with the fairies!!!!!!!

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    2. Sorry but is ATL the name of the turbines? I missed that on the post NEVER HEARD of them? What does ATL stand for? and WHY wont the constructor tell the EA where they are it all sounds a bit wonky to me! the EA are the regulator why don't they demand the information???? and if not fail his application you cant just make up bull sh*t !!!!!!! CAN YOU ?
      A worried tax payer

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  4. Having followed this site for many years ATL must stand for ANOTHER TARRANT LIE but the EA keep on believing them, more tax payers money down the river. BIG JON B-ON-A

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  5. You're the fools. We are the ones who decide what goes... to think you could take on the Environment Agency and win is the most foolish thing I have read. Do something better with your time than wasting your time and money taking us on.

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    2. another fool

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    3. Bet you were a right charmer in the playground weren't you?

      Looks like we might have a troll

      Bring it on.

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    4. That wouldn't be Henry's pet troll "you know who" from Inside The Environment Agency would it?

      creepy sod

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    5. i bet i could name him in one????

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  6. Has a fresh Flood Risk Assessment been done on that revised Weaver's Mill proposal? - it would seem that the EA only have done this for the original, now defunct proposal...

    WTF is going on ?

    Given the present run of soggy weather - it's a question that many Bradford / Avoncliff dwellers would probably appreciate an answer to.

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